Merkel K1 Jagd ?

[Franzjosef]

Jetzt mal auf gut Deutsch.
Die KR1 ist mit dem Klappdeckelmagazin ein Murkskonstruktion und nichts anderes.
Das kantige Design mit Potential zum Fingeraufsäbbeln tut ein übriges.
Der Verbreitungsgrad spricht für sich.
Noch schlimmer dürfte es bei der von carcano erwähnten Semprio sein... auch ein Groschengrab!
S&L, danke carcano, in dem Video zum "Slagstift" hab ich einen Bekannten gesehen mit dem ich ab und an zur DJ bin.
Mal ne Mail geschickt, die 97DL ist schon was feines.
Mal sehen da kein Distributor in DE....

Ach ja da der TS den Nick RxHelix gewählt hat... Hatte diese Krücke mal wieder in den Fingern...................Reiht sich in die o.g. ein. Murks!
Ich würde meine R93 und die R8 nicht tauschen wohlen.

Michi doesn't like the removable trigger and favourits his great Blaser rifle. Another one talking about things he only knows by pics. It is a pity.

The thread quoted by carcano is highly recommendative for the KR1. And does not show any of the misfire incidents. He simply made them up.

:19:

 

[RxHelix]

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Optics I am not yet sure of...

Scope or one of these small aimpoint, docter optics solutions?

Either a Zeiss Victory 1.5-4(6?) or a doctor VZF unipoint 1.5-4 I think... Aimpoint im not sure if I go wild boar hunting enough for it to be the perfect solution for me

Oh well, it seems like I have bought the worst weapon possible here on wild und hund :12: . Will the deer ask whether it was shot with a blaser or a merkel before dying? :31:

 

[RxHelix]

Jetzt mal auf gut Deutsch.
Die KR1 ist mit dem Klappdeckelmagazin ein Murkskonstruktion und nichts anderes.
Das kantige Design mit Potential zum Fingeraufsäbbeln tut ein übriges.
Der Verbreitungsgrad spricht für sich.
Noch schlimmer dürfte es bei der von carcano erwähnten Semprio sein... auch ein Groschengrab!
S&L, danke carcano, in dem Video zum "Slagstift" hab ich einen Bekannten gesehen mit dem ich ab und an zur DJ bin.
Mal ne Mail geschickt, die 97DL ist schon was feines.
Mal sehen da kein Distributor in DE....

Ach ja da der TS den Nick RxHelix gewählt hat... Hatte diese Krücke mal wieder in den Fingern...................Reiht sich in die o.g. ein. Murks!
Ich würde meine R93 und die R8 nicht tauschen wohlen.

Michi doesn't like the removable trigger and favourits his great Blaser rifle. Another one talking about things he only knows by pics. It is a pity.

The thread quoted by carcano is highly recommendative for the KR1. And does not show any of the misfire incidents. He simply made them up.

:19:

He also links to reviews of the rifle as proof that it is a bad construction, whereas the reviews are positive.

Actually, every single review I have read regarding the KR1 has been positive, and touted as a good alternative to the R93 if you do not care about a straight pull mechanism.

Is every reviewer clueless?

 

[michik007]

Jetzt mal auf gut Deutsch.
Die KR1 ist mit dem Klappdeckelmagazin ein Murkskonstruktion und nichts anderes.
Das kantige Design mit Potential zum Fingeraufsäbbeln tut ein übriges.
Der Verbreitungsgrad spricht für sich.
Noch schlimmer dürfte es bei der von carcano erwähnten Semprio sein... auch ein Groschengrab!
S&L, danke carcano, in dem Video zum "Slagstift" hab ich einen Bekannten gesehen mit dem ich ab und an zur DJ bin.
Mal ne Mail geschickt, die 97DL ist schon was feines.
Mal sehen da kein Distributor in DE....

Ach ja da der TS den Nick RxHelix gewählt hat... Hatte diese Krücke mal wieder in den Fingern...................Reiht sich in die o.g. ein. Murks!
Ich würde meine R93 und die R8 nicht tauschen wohlen.

Michi doesn't like the removable trigger and favourits his great Blaser rifle. Another one talking about things he only knows by pics. It is a pity.

The thread quoted by carcano is highly recommendative for the KR1. And does not show any of the misfire incidents. He simply made them up.

:19:

Ja Du hast Recht ich mag die KR1 nicht wirklich und ich kenne das Trumm nicht nur vom Bild!
Ich schiesse deutlich mehr als 2K Schuss pro Jahr und weder die KR1, Semprio, Helix oder auch Sauer 303 haben mich überzeugt.
Die Magazinklappdeckellösung ist eine Missgeburt und die könnt Ihr euch schön reden wie ihr wollt.
Die Helix wird auch kein Wurf! Na solange die Scheichs das Geld geben ist es eh Banane, genau wie diese Krachlatten.

 

[Franzjosef]

Ja Du hast Recht ich mag die KR1 nicht wirklich und ich kenne das Trumm nicht nur vom Bild!
Ich schiesse deutlich mehr als 2K Schuss pro Jahr und weder die KR1, Semprio, Helix oder auch Sauer 303 haben mich überzeugt.
Die Magazinklappdeckellösung ist eine Missgeburt und die könnt Ihr euch schön reden wie ihr wollt.
Die Helix wird auch kein Wurf! Na solange die Scheichs das Geld geben ist es eh Banane, genau wie diese Krachlatten.

Michi admits he does not like the KR1. He informs that he fires more than 2.000 rounds per year and was not convinced by almost any other modern bolt action rifle. And he knows that the Merkel Helix won't be a commercial success.
But as long as Merkel's Arabian owners give their money to Merkel, Michi does not care.

Edit: Borne

So we got ourselves a "range hunter" here who has clairvoyant abilities beyond my mental horizon and unsheathes his dislike of a certain rifle to us. I think, that is exactly what you wanted to know when you started this thread, Rxhelix!

I am sorry, you did not ask him for the weekend's lottery numbers ... :32:

 

[michik007]

Ja Du hast Recht ich mag die KR1 nicht wirklich und ich kenne das Trumm nicht nur vom Bild!
Ich schiesse deutlich mehr als 2K Schuss pro Jahr und weder die KR1, Semprio, Helix oder auch Sauer 303 haben mich überzeugt.
Die Magazinklappdeckellösung ist eine Missgeburt und die könnt Ihr euch schön reden wie ihr wollt.
Die Helix wird auch kein Wurf! Na solange die Scheichs das Geld geben ist es eh Banane, genau wie diese Krachlatten.

Michi admits he does not like the KR1. He informs that he fires more than 2.000 rounds per year and was not convinced by almost any other modern bolt action rifle. And he knows that the Merkel Helix won't be a commercial success.
But as long as Merkel's Arabian owners give their money to Merkel, Michi does not care.

So we got ourselves a "range hunter" here who has clairvoyant abilities beyond my mental horizon and unsheathes his dislike of a certain rifle to us. I think, that is exactly what you wanted to know when you started this thread, Rxhelix!

I am sorry, you did not ask him for the weekend's lottery numbers ... :32:

Quote Edit Borne

Mein lieber Franzjosef,

unterstelle mir bitte keine rassistischen Gedanken!
Sonst gibt es vom Anwalt böse was auf die Finger!

 

[Franzjosef]

Re: Merkel KR1 Jagd ?

Now Michis states he is not a racist, because I concluded he might have a certain dislike for the Arabian owners of Merkel after naming them "Krachlatten", a bad name I will not translate.

He also threats he has a lawyer who will sue me, if I ever do that again.

Trembling with fear I immediately apologize to Michi, begging for his generous mercy. :17:

@Michi: Merry christmas to you!

 

[Franzjosef]

He also links to reviews of the rifle as proof that it is a bad construction, whereas the reviews are positive.

Actually, every single review I have read regarding the KR1 has been positive, and touted as a good alternative to the R93 if you do not care about a straight pull mechanism.

Is every reviewer clueless?

No, certainly not. But in German forums every question for experiences with certain rifles attract the "warriors of the different brand".

 

[anonym]

But in German forums every question for experiences with certain rifles attract the "warriors of the different brand".

For which common vice you are an excellent - and deterrent - example indeed.
("I may have bought shit, but it does not smell, and tastes excellent !")

Carcano

 

[anonym]

Re: Merkel KR1 Jagd ?

because I concluded he might have a certain dislike for the Arabian owners of Merkel after naming them "Krachlatten", a bad name I will not translate.

Quite literally "thundersticks". Your German certainly is worse than your English.

Carcano

 

[anonym]

He also links to reviews of the rifle as proof that it is a bad construction, whereas the reviews are positive.
Is every reviewer clueless?

No. But your reading comprehension might be clueless. Whereas the reviewers have been (forced to be) duplicitous and diplomatic at times, in spite of their better insight. As several commentators already analyzed ironically years ago.

As to the links that I have graciously and benevolently indicated to you (a bit more graciously than your blind stubbornness deserves), I suggest that you might actually READ the German texts, instead of merely fantasizing what might be in them if the reviewers shared your belief.
As to the link to Lutz Möller's website, it really was a case of "hoisting on one's own petard", given that it extensively narrates the (early?) misfiring problems. LOL.

As to you specifically, RxHelix, now "Butter bei die Fische" (German colloquialism): you shot too hastily, bought a gun untested and uninformed, vastly (!!) overpriced, and now are desperately trying to defend and rationalize an ill choice to yourself, trying to sweet-talk your own growing apprehensions. Sorry, I do not have a GRAIN of pity with you.
You should better use this opportunity instead, in order to learn from your misdecision and lack of proper prior research. It may spare you future pain.

Carcano

 

[RxHelix]

:11: :11:

Have I done anything in particular to offend you?

I wanted another rifle to compliment my blaser R93, I read reviews. I looked at pictures. I went to the gun store and looked at the different models...Sauer 202, R8, Rx helix ( not available in links) - and I test fired a friends KR1.

I have talked to 5-6 persons about the KR1, they all love it. I have read 10-15 reviews, all of them saying its a fine rifle comparable to R93 and R8.

I can accept that there are things about the KR1 you dont like. No rifle is perfect and neither is the KR1, they are all compromises. If there was a best of everything, we would all be shooting with the same rifle :12:

But when you say EVERYTHING about it is shit and that it is a 300 euro rifle, thats when I cannot take you seriously. I defend my ill-adviced buy? Well maybe, but its like going over to a man and his BMW, and tell him that everything about it is shit. Of cource you are going to insult him, you are ridiculing his ability to make an informed decision and his judgement.

On the other hand, if you approached the manner saying " I like this and this, but I dont like this and this, and it would have been better if they did this and this" - then I would have been very positive to debating further.



I come to this forum in peace, and wanted to discuss this model. Your opinion is appreciated.
I have tested the rifle, read the reviews and decided this was for me. Im sorry you dont like it.
But I disagree that it is SHIT. Nowhere have I read this to be the case, and it is not my opinion after testing it either.

The Semprio I have also looked at. It is an interesting construction, and I know people who LOVE it.
It still has its weaknesses, and is by no means perfect. Yet to some, it is a very good product.

 

[Franzjosef]

OMG.
Sorry, but I am out of this.
@michi Bond and carcano: You are right and I am wrong. How could I dare?

Rxhelix, we 'll keep in touch...

 

[RxHelix]

carcano, the KR1 Standard here in norway is around 2000 Euro in Links. Premium around 2300-2700 euro. I Found the Jagd with gefluten barrel for 3300 euro to be the more appealing package.

For me it seemed like a decent deal

and look, someone at wildundhund.de who also prefered a KR1 over a R93. Are they also idiots? :21:
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[anonym]

Dieser Thread hier hat das Potential, in die höchsten Annalen des Forums einzugehen, einfach klasse, das alles und vor allem die Watschen zu lesen. You all made my day, ladies and gentlemen